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PostSubject: Starship warfare   Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:57 am

I believe it is a pretty strong hypothesis that the Super Star Destroyers of the Empire are the most intimidating, formidable of the larger warships, and that the surplus of capital that goes with being the biggest player in the Galaxy would suggest a more-developed naval force. Would anyone care to discuss the technology, observed strategy, and nuances of each side of the Galactic Civil War?
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:26 pm

Yep. I'm interested in that, having an idea to make a numerical index to compare ships relative strength. I need some time to work on it and must complete my work on Trandoshan Society first. Plus, it is a complicated issue with new squads capability. But I'm definitely interested in the subject. Would be mostly OOC for my part though, as I need to discuss actual rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:48 am

From discussion that has taken place between the NR and GA, it seems that there are vastly more home-one's (the NR capital ships) than super star destroyers in the galaxy. SSDs take more time to build and are more expensive. So what I am saying is that the GE doesn't necessarily field the largest fleet.

As far as tactics, all I know is the little that we have experienced on-the-ground at Derra. The Empire favors precise, coordinated strikes and pulls out quickly, preferring to lose face publicly rather than take excessive losses to make a point.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:08 pm

Very interesting indeed!

How comperable are the Home One's to the SSD's? I had always heard that the GE has the upper hand, but I had always assumed that was because of numbers, assuming every pilot and his brother has dreams of manning the big ship.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:52 pm

An SSD is superior to a Home One, but both are formidable. Interesting precedence for future battles.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:50 am

I can asure you that SSD are far superiors to the rebels calamari crafts.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:25 pm

Quite, though it is also known, as stated above, that the Galactic Alliance's Fleet is far larger than the collective Imperial Fleet. This, in my opinion, is an important tactical advantage for the Alliance - as it means ships can be used as diversionary units to distract Imperial Fleets while other operations are carried out. An attack on Coruscant would be a good example.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:29 pm

Just looking at the stats of SSDs and Home Ones, it would take at least 4 Home Ones to possibly destroy an SSD with a high casualty rate for the Home Ones. If I heard and remember correctly, I believe the Empire has around 75 SSDs while the GA has one or two hundred Home Ones. In this case, the Empire outguns the GA.

Even looking at the "smaller" capital ships, the Empire's, on a stat to stat basis, outmatch their GA counterpart. However, these values are much closer than the SSD/Home One disparity. The GA's best hope is to have larger numbers of Mon Cal craft than the Empire has Star Destroyers. The Empire has better Corvettes and Frigates as well, with a larger variety than the GA has access to, but these are yet a closer match up. The GA has the Falleen's Kaloths and YVs, Incom's Neutrons and Quasars, and Koros' CR-90, while the GE has Nebulons, Carracks, Star Galleons, Lancers, and CEC's DP-20a, DP-20c, CR-90 and CR-90a.

Once we get down to smaller craft, however, the GA starts to outshine the Empire. The /letter-Wing starfighters are vastly superior to the TIEs, but the Empire does have great counters with the Alpha Xg-1 Starwing and Skiprays.

So, the smaller the craft, the better the GA fares. However, it seems unlikely for a GA victory in the end due to the better quality of the majority of the Empire's vessels. The GA's best hope seems to be outnumbering the Empire, which I imagine to be quite a daunting task. This is possible, however, considering the Empire downsized the Imperial Union somewhat recently, removing 5 powerful (or at least fairly powerful) governments and replaced them with two fairly strong governments. The GA consists of the New Republic, the Krath, the Falleen Federation, and several other strong governments. The combined economic power between the two unions aught to be comparable, if not in the GA's favor (but this is just an assumption).

Granted, I do fail to consider tactics into this equation and instead focus purely on stats. If the GA were to have access to a tactical genius such as Revan or Thrawn while the Empire makes inept tactical decisions, then the outcome would be significantly different. However, their tactics are well out of my expertise and knowledge, as well as slightly off topic, so I will refrain from discussing this more.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:01 pm

Oh but let's! Tactics are the practical usage of the technology, and wouldn't be too out of place here.

I know a number of the corvettes are on the public market, so it is possible that rebels and sympathizers could be acquiring some of them. Also, when push comes to shove, what would be the effect is several of the "neutral" powers turned against the GE, hypothetically?
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:47 pm

I think that we have seen the effects of just that scenario on Derra, my good baragwin. The empire presented an organized, precise assault, but were driven back due to the fact that every organization present in the city seemed bent on bringing down the empire. Many see the Empire as being representative of oppression, and this gives them a reason to band together for a common cause. I suspect that, if this trend continues, the Empire may face an uphill battle.
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PostSubject: Re: Starship warfare   Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:57 am

I guess we'll never know until it happens. With a contained outbreak like Derra it seemed well to oppose the GE, but when the Star Destroyers start popping up in your system, how many will choose life over death? I doubt many governments will have the strength to defend themselves, and the Empire will probably be smart enough to spread the GA thin
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